That's not in front of the sun though. We went deeper. "It's in us; it's part of our genetic makeup," New York Times, , the show, which made me learn about Porco back in 2014. We, we had a great camera system and it just, uh, really served us well. Eric Robertson in Cleveland, Ohio where the Cuyahoga River burns slowly to the sea. Carolyn C. Porco (born March 6, 1953) is an American planetary scientist who explores the outer solar system, beginning with her imaging work on the Voyager missions to Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune in the 1980s. And I was surprised but even Ed Stone said, in his very gentlemanly way, he said, "Well, you know, you, you're probably not going to be able to do that unless you could find any science in it.". Carolyn Porco: And the way this all was done was done in a very uncollegial way, I must say. That was really good. And it's about time she was our guest. I reached him on his mobile phone moments after he exited his car next to Big Bear Lake. Bruce Betts: Sorry. Comet Kohoutek was thought it to be a comet of brilliance. So that [00:24:00] you don't get any sunlight on the camera detector. Even if there was no word, we'd have to invent a word for them. A machine out there was taking our picture. Keep our weekly radio program broadcasting online and on the air around the world. And then in the morning sky, in the East, we've got, uh, Mars looking reddish but not super bright. I do have a web page. I managed to convince the, the originators of that mosaic to let us piggyback. Recent results show that there are, there is an insufficient amount of CO2 in reservoirs that are not atmospheric to ever get the atmosphere to the point where terraforming would even be possible. And so surprising, you know, we did this, deliberately, I planned this sequence to look at the rings as Cassini was passing through [00:18:00] the ring plain. And I was going to take another one of my cardinal quests. Join me for a revealing, funny and often, profound interview. Just approaching the dome now. He's, uh, one of these people who, not a scientist. But you could work backwards to show that the compounds that were detected actually came from larger compounds. But there's, we recreate this by a building from distance, uh, locations on earth. Bruce Betts: What, what a, yeah. They, they don't, they don't make their living there or they don't give birth to the next generation. Yeah. I doubt they could give you, uh, 100% confidence level that you'd found life. What spacecraft observed a planetary transit from the surface of another planet? So its scale and variant, you can't use that. It may be time to just rethink this whole thing and, and just clean up our act at home first. —Space Science Institute, 4750 Walnut St., Ste. We want them to, you know, to enjoy what we do. So to the, the porch yet. Pluto is not a planet. It was Porco’s personal path to success. So we've got a gang in the parking lot ready to help [01:21:00] me out. We're going to get hit [00:55:00] by asteroids. At one angle, they're lit directly from the sun. In the mid-1990s, she served as the chairperson for a small NASA advisory working group to study and develop future outer solar system missions and she served as the Vice Chairperson of the Steering Group for the first Solar System Decadal Survey, sponsored by NASA and the National Academy of Sciences. So, so I get it. Complete the contest entry form at https://www.planetary.org/radiocontest or write to us at [email protected] no later than Wednesday, November 20th at 8am Pacific Time. Among the main 178 scientists working on the Voyager mission, He'll say, how did he put this? But, uh, I, I couldn't think of [00:26:00] anything then until I went off and came up with the idea to try to get, capture the dustpans, the, the dustpans-. All we see are little planets so we don't have any detail on them yet. Thanks. Voyager's where everything began as far as I'm concerned and I, uh, I've said many times I've led a charmed existence. Newsday, she became an official member of the Voyager imaging team and analyzed  She is an expert on planetary rings and the Saturnian moon, Enceladus. Because I had team members at Cornell. "Dogs don't seem to do it, giraffes don't do it, We knew as it was happening, we were doing something historic. She returned to Caltech and became Madame Saturn. [01:04:00] This category needs to remain the same. In November 1990, Porco was selected as the leader of the Imaging Team for the Cassini-Huygens mission, an international mission that successfully placed a spacecraft in orbit around Saturn and deployed the atmospheric Huygens probe to Saturn's largest satellite, Titan. And then the people in space craft, uh, then calibrate how, uh, how sharp their, uh, imaging is when they have a good distant object of a known size against a background that they're looking at when they look at the sun. We're in the early evening. Now let me s- let me just parenthetically say here. Uh, it doesn't matter. Carolyn Porco: They wanted to come out and capture me while the thing was going on. Jay Pasachoff: Oh, perfect. We had set up in my shop, Cyclops, had set up a website for people to write in. On one hand, I'm sort of sympathetic that people want to be able to talk about [01:05:00] large-ish bodies. You know, our imaging team meetings were three times a year. As the Cassini imaging team lead, Porco initiated and planned the capture of a picture of Saturn with the Earth in the distance on July 19, 2013, an image along the lines of the famous Pale Blue Dot photo. Carolyn Porco: I also attribute part of the love for Voyager to Brad Smith who was the imaging team leader. Carolyn Porco, planetary scientist, Imaging Team Leader for the Cassini mission orbiting Saturn and member of the New Horizons mission, has been dubbed a rockstar in the science world and it’s a title well earned. I mean, I think there's lots to continue to do in the solar system. She's also involved with the New Horizons mission launched to Pluto. The thought of quitting was unbearable. It's really the convection of the ice. So congratulations, Eric. Carolyn Porco: When it, I think I probably started thinking about it again, 2010, 2011 and figuring out where to put it in the timeline of images that we were going to take.  CICLOPS is part of the Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colorado. Carolyn Porco: Okay. Carolyn Porco: Here's where I'm becoming very critical of commercial space. We provide you with news from the entertainment industry. That's a common process here on earth. Not, not, I wasn't a student of his. For all of her And so maybe I dozed off or I was daydreaming. He's in transit as he joins [01:27:00] us here on What's Up. So, uh, I was of course delighted. I also learned I just watched the way that he conducted himself as a scientist in combat. The And you never could really get there. She announced that a photo would be taken from Saturn and asked people to smile in that direction. She tried to find inner peace in religions. Carolyn Porco: No, not surprising at all to me. I was kind of aghast as it was going on that, that images were thrown together so sloppily. We could on the moon. And it was really a, a great, great moment. Mat Kaplan: You're not looking at the sun I know, not yet. Join fellow space enthusiasts in advancing space science and exploration. And like I said, it would, it, uh, uh, provided people such a, a touchstone into their, their cosmic significance. And you also said Carl Sagan was a pioneer in doing this. Mat Kaplan: Oh, we did great, I think because, uh, that Sasha Sagan interview of a couple of weeks ago was so popular. Carolyn Porco: Is this, is this the one where its just a, a sequence of rapid sequence of raw images? We also talk with astronomer Jay Pasachoff while he watches tiny Mercury crawl across the face of the Sun. And he responded basically, "Great. Carolyn Porco: That's pretty cool, too. It looks like a miniature solar system. The beauty of it, that's what always would knock me for a loop is just how beautiful it was-. Well, asteroids have satellites. No sun spots today because it looks real solemn in a month. And Ben Snyder from Arizona, you know, so Arizona's here. Uh, so everyone had a great time. The spacecraft was expected to take some 500,000 images. Just at the start of the, uh, Christmas or holiday shopping season, we're going to give away a necklace and earring set from Yugen with interchangeable images of LightSail, of LightSail 2. That's the stuff that went on in my shop at Cyclops. No. Give us your schedule for the next two months. Do you wish there was a, an Enceladus clipper? No one that came up with this crazy idea that we're going to release the raw images to the public. Carolyn Porco: It took us, it took us a long time to process that. But these are good questions. data from Voyager II's 1986 pass by Uranus and 1989 pass by Cassini's 'Last Dance': A final portrait at Saturn, Jay Pasachoff’s Historical Transits of Venus (and Mercury), CICLOPS-Cassini Imaging Central Laboratory for Operations, The Downlink: Planetary exploration news for busy people, Yugen Tribe Cosmic Jewelry in the Chop Shop Planetary Society store, A Deep Dive into Asteroid Bennu With Dante Lauretta, Sampling an Asteroid and Searching for Life in Venus' Clouds. And now we can do other things. Welcome. It wasn't of course, it didn't capture everything that was in Carl's book. Because if it was feared the spacecraft was taken off for its line, you might not be able to get it back. Mat Kaplan: Oh, yeah. Remember, I got started in this business on [00:10:00] Voyager. Carolyn Porco: Oh, I love them. It's, it's all about perspective. Not that I didn't see him like, you know, get irritated with his daughter or whatever. So I think that's probably what they wanted.  She is also the Director of the Cassini Imaging Central Laboratory for Operations (CICLOPS), which was the center of uplink and downlink operations for the Cassini imaging science experiment and the place where Cassini images are processed for release to the public. She leads the imaging team on the Cassini mission, orbiting Saturn. Ad astra. But I think already, it's somewhat of a [00:47:00] risky mission. Carolyn Porco: No, okay. Carolyn Porco: Right? Carolyn Porco: But we don't know the answer. The magnificent film based on Sagan's only novel. Bruce Betts: So we move on actually to this freaking space history. Porco has advocated for prioritizing the exploration of Enceladus over Europa. So there are a whole lot of reasons to still look at the transits of Mercury. Everybody just loved it. We are in really very serious trouble. Carolyn Porco: And it was, it's something out of science fiction. And whether it's round, whether it's in hydrostatic equilibrium will depend on its composition. Mat Kaplan: What else is up in the night sky? You need to hit the road. And that's the way we will make our way across the solar system. [laughs]. You better have a really good reason for it. Mat Kaplan: [laughs] Well, that's a proven fact in at least one case. Porco has said that she is glad she can be a role model to other women and girls interested in science, though she tends to downplay the topic when it arises.
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